If Not Then… When?

Pundits on both sides of the aisle will be spinning their own reasons for support or disagreement with Representative Joe Wilson’s comment during the President’s speech last night.  Obama had just commented that “the reforms I’m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.”  Wilson blurted out “YOU LIE!” Sparking the debate over appropriateness of such comments during a speech to congress.

Was it inappropriate?  If so, when might Congressman Wilson be able to call out what he KNOWS is a baldfaced lie by our president? Inappropriate perhaps, but timely. At this time when the President is using whatever charisma he has remaining to provoke a decidedly statist and destructive agenda it is perhaps the straw that breaks the camel of appropriateness’ back.

There are many people who understand the effect government has had on other institutions as it has expanded its control over them, and sometimes the statement MUST be made at a time when it matters.  I wish MY Representative Dave Camp would have yelled it.  My guess is he agrees with congressman Wilson, but out of his respect for the institution refrained from his own outbursts, went back to his apartment and took the obligatory aspirin.

George Bush’s receiving of similar treatment consistently, hardly brought forth the scorn of those who wail now, according to Malkin..

And that’s what Democrats would undoubtedly tell you they were doing during George W. Bush’s 2005 State of the Union Speech when they booed and shouted down his remarks about the need for Social Security reform.

And that..  was for merely discussing Policy, and calling for “change.”

Respect for the institution of Congress IMO is less than relevant anymore.  The institution, is as deserving of checked emotions by its members, or those who have an opinion of it as would be a “Thieves Guild.”  Further, the Presidency itself seems to have been made “attackable” by the very people who will now call for Wilson’s resignation.  They certainly lowered that barrier over the last eight years.

In the end Joe Wilson shouted out what might truly be the most “appropriate” use of “the Emperor Has No Clothes!,” and given the propensity of a truly lickspittle and agog press to ignore matters of truth, it might be the only time such a comment would be noted.

— UPDATE –  Other Thoughts —


Michael Selker writes:

So what if Joe Wilson was “rude”? What’s more rude: shouting someone’s a liar or someone (in this case the president) lying?

I once read in a spiritual book that hell is full of polite people. If these people in hell had just once in their lives cursed the evil, the darkness, the lies of this earth, they would have made it to heaven. Well I’ll say it: damn the lies, damn the abortions, damn the taking away of our freedoms, damn the bankrupting of future generations, damn the wars we fight without doing our best to win and protect our soldiers, and damn the politicians who have taken an oath to serve and to uphold the Constitution while thinking they are above the people and the Constitution.

It might be better to light a candle than to curse the darkness, but the two are not mutually exclusive.

The American people over the last 6 weeks or so have said to heck with decorum. You are using “politeness” as a way of muzzling us and ignoring our will. I praise Joe Wilson for standing with the frustrated majority that’s tired of politicians lying and no one having the courage and yes “rudeness” to stand up and call a lie a lie.

– Mike

6 comments for “If Not Then… When?

  1. Bill
    September 10, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    When? Any time of the day or night a guy like that can drop a dime and get a newsroom full of reporters and give a “press conference.” Come on. This was a joint session of Congress, for crying out loud.

    This damaged the Republicans big time. Wilson’s opponent’s fundraising went through the roof today and the DNC raised a million bucks right after Obama’s speech.

    So champion Wilson all you want. Rah rah. The idiot cost the GOP last night. And there’s been a couple of honest souls in the party who have admitted that.

    Obama’s a big boy and can take it. That’s not the issue. The issue is what political gain is there for the GOP to act like petulent children? And somebody needed to shove Cantor’s Blackberry up his ass. Sideways. Another punk.

    • jgillman
      September 10, 2009 at 8:12 pm

      I would disagree.. I donated Immediately. It will be interesting to see how much Joe Wilson rakes in. His opponent did like 70K-300K by some estimates. According to financial reports on Wilson’s opponent he had $400k of debt for his last campaign.. Money well spent by those who gave paying down OLD debt..

      The Democrat party will use the rising sun as a reason to beg another $5 from each of its college kid piggy banks. Eventually the lack of pizza will wear thin as they see no positive end.

      Anyhow.. you could care less about the affairs of the Republicans. Your words mean little. Funny how you almost tempt me to put on the censorship hat. Ipse Loquitor Bill.. Ipse Loquitor..

  2. Bill
    September 10, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    I don’t doubt your mind was changed by anything last night. Your words mean little in that you’re already entrenched. But the polling today shows a double-digit swing to Obama’s side on the health care issue (67 percent versus 52 percent before the speech).

    That’s OVERNIGHT.

    It’s funny. A student sits in the back of a classroom with a crooked hat and texts during the entire class and he’s obviously a loser. Cantor does it and he’s a “leader” of the GOP. What a difference a suit and tie make, eh?

    Very telling.

    The Dems got all the ammo last night, thank you, for justifying going it alone on this from here on out (if necessary). The American public–and more importantly the independents–saw first-hand the GOP’s true intent: nothing but sabotage.

    So rah rah your man, Wilson. I’m cheering him on, too. Thanks, Mr. Wilson!

    Man, are those insurance company execs gonna be pissed when they find out all the money they shoveled down the throats of the GOP is gonna mean squat.

    • jgillman
      September 11, 2009 at 4:26 am

      Bill you forget they polled 72% democrats.. people who were already OBAMA supporters.. at least present SOME reality when commenting.. You must read the entire poll structure. The GAIN as you put it turns out negligible when applied to the whole.

      Stop with the hyperbole. I have been gracious enough to allow your rants, but your Alinsky is showing.

      As to Insurance companies.. I may lead the fight to disassemble BCBS so.. I am with you on being against THEM.

  3. Bill
    September 10, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Not to mention Factcheck.org explicitly states that Obama was correct and Wilson was wrong.

    So in sum: The real liar lied about Obama being a liar.

    And you’re putting this dude on your shoulders, Gillman.

    Double brilliant!

    • jgillman
      September 11, 2009 at 4:31 am

      Fact check.org Annenberg Factcheck? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
      ha ha ha ha ha ha h aha ahaha ha ha ha ha ha ha LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOl

      OMG WOW oh WOW You actually pay attention to an organization that has clear ties to Ayers, and Obama? WOW.. you have ZERO credibility using them friend.

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