Some comments made at an Outside Lansing site debate..

These are my own, because I feel they pretty much nail down the essence of where I stand.. The debate is one which former Clinton appointee, UAW attorney and current northeastern Michigan resident Leonard Page addresses Chetly Zarko and his comments with regard to the Black Lake facility.  I believe there is a bit of information worth digesting if you follow through the comments. 

My own below, found at the link above tends to divert to the ideological side I suppose, but its hard not to provide valid reasoning for an opinion I feel has been well crafted and is appealing logically.

My own reasons for wanting to fully understand what is going on there has less to do with my dislike for an organization of the type I do not care for, but rather to know what money manipulations might be happening at the same time the very same (or related) organization is begging the government (the taxpayer) largess. As I disagree with the particulars of the current money handling to that end, you will find myself and others pretty sensitive to what might be perceived as shenanigans in the organized labor sector.

As to organizing?  I actually might have a view a little more different than you think.  I am not against unions.  I am against GOVERNMENT involvement in the support or otherwise as relates to unions.  In other words, if there are 50 employable people in town and 40 of them hold hands and insist they will do nothing without the agreement of the 39 others, then more power to them.  If there is one major employer in town who needs a majority of those available persons, it is incumbent upon them to create a relationship with their perceived leadership.  However, if the employer decides the cost benefit of importing labor from outside town is of greater weight, then there is no reason that employer could not do so…  even if it involves FIRING workers who might stand and disrupt by strike or otherwise.

Private property and individual ownership is one of the MAIN reasons this country was formed.  To have an elected body institute a “board” which can FINE or DISRUPT business operations because they are/were not “fair” to previous or current employees is anathema to the very core beliefs which brought us this great republic.

We have hands.  We have minds. We have the ability to change direction, to re-task our selves to productive pursuits.  It is not only unnecessary to have a government punish self serving enterprise for decisions which will in many cases keep it afloat, it is immoral.

Also If you follow this posting you might have a little more insight where I am coming from.… It doesn’t necessarily demonstrate government ACTION, but it does show that the (original story linked within, you will have to follow through) car hauling company knew it had no choice but to liquidate.  In that case, did it HELP the lowly worker?  of course not.. it was merely an ideological tool as a warning shot across the bow of any other company which might suggest the union give any concessions.”


4 comments for “Some comments made at an Outside Lansing site debate..

  1. January 11, 2009 at 4:16 am

    Your comments are interesting, but I find Page’s tireless verbal rotations to be more interesting, at least where they occasionally attempt to explain rather than spin. I’ll do an analysis at some point – but have other things on my plate and will give him some more time.

    I encourage your readers though to check it out, and engage with Page if you choose.

  2. January 11, 2009 at 7:45 am

    Ha! Defamation lawsuit. That’s funny. He’s tossing it like someone was tossing blank legal threats with me thinking I was going to be intimidated. Bzzt, wrong.

  3. January 12, 2009 at 10:08 am

    Just be careful with how you engage, or the Big Labor’s big creepy trial lawyers will try to take your house and car. Especially if its foreign.


  4. January 12, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    “Especially if its foreign.”
    *rim shot*

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